Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Historical firearms

Ok, I've been doing research for my book, but one thing I can't find yet is this: What sort of firearms were issued to US Army officers and enlisted men in 1800-1810?  What sort of uniform did they have, and what would their standard kit have been?  I'm about to start writing, and I need detail.

15 comments:

Res Ipsa said...

That all depends. Mostly they would have had smooth bore, flint lock style muskets. However back then men were allowed to bring and use their personal weapons. Those that had better guns often used them. Side arms were more rare among the troops but officers sometimes had them. I suspect that every officer in that time period would have carried a sword into battle even if he wasn't mounted. The ammo kit would have included ball, patches, grease, gunpowder, primer powder, extra flints, ball starter, ram rod. He likely carried his own casting equipment to manufacture his own bullets.

A man that owned his own rifled muzzle loader may have used mini balls or sabots if he knew about them. Check out traditional muzzle loading pages. Anything that was in use prior to the war of 1812 is potentially useful to you. Also, any of the pre and early Napoleonic war stuff may prove useful as well. Improvements in firearm technology happened on both sides of the ocean and were quickly adapted.
This page should be a good help in getting some ideas.


Also any of the revolutionary war re-enactor groups would be a great resource for you.

Res Ipsa said...

Standard issue wasn't much during this time period. You may want to research how much of an army there was. I'm guessing it wasn't much. I suspect that you will find that the officers had to purchase the uniforms and that their was a lot of variance even in a single unit.

WaterBoy said...

Dude, I told you...you need to come down here and visit the Pioneers Museum. They have all kinds of those things on display.

But there is even more stuff they have in collections that is not presently on display. Here is a database search form for searching those collections; just enter the first name of the person in whom you are interested into the "Description" field, and it will give you a crapload of resources they have there.

Really, just call or visit them. They're one of the few people who can say, "We're from the government and we're here to help", and actually mean it.

WaterBoy said...

Here is a description of clothing from one of the items:

double breasted, high collared military coat with epaulets, double row of buttons, collar has buttons, comes to chin

Res Ipsa said...

WB,

He needs descriptions of what the alien time travelers were wearing.

WaterBoy said...

Easy enough, since they have no need for clothes....

Res Ipsa said...

Good point.

Anything they needed to carry with them could be clipped to their very manly facial hair.

WaterBoy said...

Grays have facial hair? Who knew?

Res Ipsa said...

They sometimes squeeze into a pair of wranglers and a plaid flannel shirt too.

Astrosmith said...

Makes us harder to be recognized.

Thanks for the resources above.

I think I have the whole story mapped out in my mind now, and I just need to start writing it. Hopefully it comes out as I see it in my mind. I can even see it play out as in a movie.

Yall interested in helping review and edit this, once I have some written?

Maybe I can sell it through Vox's game thing, or at least e-book on amazon or something. It would never be published traditionally, since there are no female characters that will play any significant role.

WaterBoy said...

I could lend a hand in editing, depending on how much it would need. But it would have to be after football season is over....

Res Ipsa said...

If you'd like I'd give it a read. Keep in mind that my English skills are only half a step above a public school graduate.

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Astrosmith said...

I am not sure if you are a spam comment...

Hmm, I think I will just write, and use what I think would be historically accurate, and if it's not, then someone can fix it for me in editing.

Now to get going. I like Vox's recent posts on the rules of writing and on time management. If I set a goal for myself of writing so many words a day or something like that, I can get this book done.

Athor Pel said...

http://www.americanrifleman.org

The American Rifleman is the magizine of the NRA. Over the years I've been reading it I've seen many articles detailing Revolutionary War era weapons. Those articles usually have well researched illustrations with uniforms in them.

Another source for uniforms are militaria collectors.

Google search is your friend.